I am fairly new to Kratom. I have only tried Red Vein Bali before this, so I don't have a range of kratom experiences to refer to. I really enjoy the Red Vein Bali for relaxation and calm relief, but the Relax Red is much more potent for both of these things. In my experience, this has about twice the potency of Red Vein Bali. I'm really glad I bought multiple packs of this limited supply.